Subject: [fem-women2000 86] ESCAP Final Plenary discussions
From: lalamaziwa <lalamaziwa@jca.apc.org>
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 23:31:30 +0900
Seq: 86


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Chair, Drafting Committee:

Tonight I have the honor and pleasure of presenting this wonderful piece
of paper which I would like to call labour of love. Since yesterday, we
had a chance to look first at the preamble. It consists of a number of
paragraphs, essentially four paragraphs. Let me go back at this time.
This is the paper we had worked on since yesterday.  At the start is the
organization of the meeting; it has a background; lists the attendance;
the opening of the meeting; election of the officers; and adoption of
the agenda.

I draw your attention to part F which is the overall review of the
implementation of the Beijing Platform of Action. This consists of
agenda item 4 which is enumeration of the events; the debate from the
floor; of the vigorous interventions; and the statements made by
panelists; and faithful as possible a representation of what was
discussed in this hall.

This is what we'll be calling Chairman's report and it will be annexed
to the report. Being a Chairman's text, this was not subject to
negotiation sinct it is merely emaration of what we took up in the
sessions.

Part II of the report is Agenda item 5 which is composed of three parts.
The preamble which has the following aspects.  In the first part of the
preamble, we have the recalling of Beijing, followed by events that have
transpired since Beijing, and the final paragraph is vision of futre,
vision of 21st Century.

This is followed by issues and concerns with emaration of the events
that has transpired within the conference hall and most important of all
are the recommendations. In view of the lack of time, they are not
devided into various issues that are listed in the agenda. Ideally when
given the time that is needed, secretary will eventually group them in
the way that have been aranged chronologically in the agenda. which
should be under item 5 issues for consideration: economic empowerment of
women; rights-based approach to empowerment of women; political
empowerment of women; and strategy for empowermentof women consisting of
capacity building for gender mainstreaming, building partnerships, and
finally accountability monitering and evaluation.

I have the honer to present this to you and would like to state that the
group worked very hard up to late last night and early this morning up
to 4 o'clock this afternoon trying to meet the dead line. we had a very
thick draft to start with which we were able to reduce to more
manageable thickness. The work that we have we have done for the past
few hours,

I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the members of this
great body for thier cooperation and flexibility in particular which
lead to the adoption by the drafting group of this paper. we had to work
against great time constraints and it is most fortunate that with
cooperation and the flexibility of everybody we were able to finish in
time, of course not counting the few hours delay, this very important
paper. without further due, I have the honor to submit this paper.

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Chair:

Under your leadership, and thanks for the drafting committee, NGOs who
were obserbers and helping, I invite the Rappoteur to introduce full
paper for adoption.

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Rappoteur:

It is indeed my pleasure as rappoteur to introduce this draft report for
adoption. I would like to however beg indulgence of the distinguished
delegates on the following proposal. (1) that the recommendations be
adopted as recorded and presented in the draft report. (2) that as
agreed in the drafting committee and as clearly explained by the
Chairperson of the drafting committee, that text for agenda items 4 and
5 be Chairman's text.  Since the rest of the report is procedual, I
therefore would propose that the report be adopted. Thank you.

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Japan:

Delegation of Japan would like to have some clarification.

As indicated by Chair of the drafting committee, we understand taht
agenda item 4,5 are going to be portion to be annexed to the agreed
portion of the paper. however, we would like to have it clarified page
to page.

Seciton F on page 6, "F" is all part of Chairman's report to be annexed

Agenda item 5 "A. Preamble" on page 21 is what we worked for agreements,
however, section "B" on page 22 is also part of Chairman's report and it
continues to be part of Chairman's report until page 29. Then "C.
Recommendations" is the portion we have agreed on. We presume that the
numbers of the paragraphs will be redone.

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Chair, Drafting Comittee:

I certify the correctness of the intervention made by Japanese
delegation.

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Nepal:

I have two remarks. It is appropriate now to stick on recommendation.

Item 86 and 88 have been duplicated so probably we need to delete one as
it indicates same points.

Coming forward to 90. CEDAW point (vii), durign the discussion in
drafting committee, the formulation was changed slightly and adopted by
the body there.  Instead of the words here, Nepal has suggested and it
was adopted to say "Consider reinforcing enhanced support to UNIFEM and
the Division for Advancement of Women ..."  So what has been adopted
should be endorsed here as it is.

Lastly, going through all points, some sort of networking and enhanced
cooperation between the women's organization would at national and
regional level could be appropriate institutes and linkages. That's why
I would suggest that if one more point could be added here that
"networking and cooperation between the women's organizations both at
national and regional level should be encouraged."  I beleive this could
go in line with what I had said been saying on all the points of the
recommendations.

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Chair, Drafting Committee:

As you are aware, the drafting committtee was under alot of time
constratints. There will be rearrangements of the paragraphs and your
intervention will be duly noted.

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Singapore:

At yesterday's meeting we agreed on paragraph 85 that the sentence
should read as follows. "Governments shoud where appropriate should
consider ratifying ILO Conventions" and the rest follows.

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Thelma Kay:

I beg the indulgence of the floor. We were doing these corrections under
great pressure. We will go back and double check the wording again.
We're double checking it again with the people on the podium and with
other note takers. So please bare with us since we were under severe
time constraints, so you'll find mistakes here and there but let us know
we're faithful to the record of the meeting.

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Chair, Drafting Committee:

If I may beg the indulgence of the distinguished delegations of this
forum, if you have any corrections that may need to be made to the text,
would you please submit this to the secretariat.

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Iran:

I asked for the floor to seek clarification on page 5 regarding section
D election of officers. My delegation has noted that name of all vice
Chairman has not been mentioned or rather have been ommitted from being
mentioned. I'm seeking clarification of the reason of the ommission.

Regarding paragraph 109bis on page 36, this is matter of procedure, not
matter of subsstance but, we would appreciate if the secretariat could
make correction and use proper name of the year 2001 as Year of Dialogue
Among Civilizations.

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Philippines:

I'm very much encouraged by comment of the secreatariat that they will
go over the typographical errors because I notice alot of typographical
errors, like "ingrated" instead of "integrated", and "self-cooperation"
instead of "south-south", so those are some of the minor things but i'm
glad that the secreteriat has assured us that to the extent possible,
they shall represent exactly what was agreed at the drafting committee.

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United States of America:

We're also pleased with typographical errors to be corrected. But we did
have several questions of things that we thought that workings in small
groups had actually been changed or deleted from the text that I would
like to raise to the attention of Rappoteur and Secretariat.

Number 88 on page 32, the phrase "under long term presence of foreign
military bases" which I believe that Philippines and United States were
the negotiating group on that item and I believe that there was an
agreement to delete.

And on 94 on page 34 which was to "Encourage the United Nations system,
particulary UNIFEM and the trust funds on violence against women," again,
I believe that this was agreed upon text.

And I also noted that the intervention made by the Phillipines on number
113, that it would be "South-South cooperation"

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India:

I will not go into the typographical errors, i'm sure these will be
taken care of by the secretariat. There were just one or two points that
needed clarificaiton.

On page 32 para 87bis, in the drafting committee, these issues regarding
the cultural diversity and moral conviction just did not come up. What
had been agreed to during the debates yesterday also was that gender
concerns and women in particular should be mainstreamed in to
reproductive health policies, programmes and projects which must be made
available, accessible and affordable to women of all ages including
marginalized groups. So I don't know how this formulation has come up.

Coming to page 35 para 99, I think originally in the drafting committee
it was agreed to delete this. But even if it is not deleted, it's not
worded in a very clear manner, you might want to have another look at
this formulation. I think it could end at "considered" because I don't
know how the rest of it fits in. "The right of self-determination of all
peoples as enunciated in the Vienna Declaration nd Programme of Action
should be considered" and it could end there because the rest of it
looks a little bit clumsy formulation.

Coming back to page 19 para 51, the formulation here is not also very
clear especially when you talk of "A block of countries, and supported
by the Cook Islands," we could suggest a different formulation to make
it little clearer that it was the "Pacific Regional Governments
supported by the Cook Islands that called upon the meeting to address
these issues and support action to ratify"  CTBT etc.

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Rappoteur:  

May I again beg the indulgence of the distinguished delegates and
reiterate that if there are corrections that you feel need to made,
please submit them to the secretariat so that they will have them duly
noted. May I also explain that your intervention on 87bis page 32, that
was a reformulation that was read out by Indonsia and accepted in the
drating committee.

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Fiji: 

We'd like to refer to paragraph 88 on page 32. Fiji would like to state
that, in the drafting committee, there was an inclusion or reference
made to those in the colonies and non-self governing territories.
Philippines was heading the smaller working group and we would like to
request the inclusion of the reference to women in the colonies and
non-self governing territories. That was agreed to in the smaller
working group.

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Rappoteur: 

May I request that this correction be made in writing and submitted to
the secretary.

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Japan: 

I would like to point paragraphs in page 34 that does not faithfully
reflect the agreement we made at the drafting session. The first one is
paragraph 94. The sentence says "particulary the trust funds on violence
against women to strengthen knowledge base"  However, for this trust
fund, we agreed on a specific Trust Fund which was established in
accordance with the General Assembly Resolution. So this would be a
large "T" and large "F" and no "s" after fund. So this will be "Trust
Fund for Eliminating Violence Against Women" and these are all capitals.
And we also had after that "and UNIFEM". In order for the sentence to
faithfully reflect the agreement we had, the sentence would read,
"Encourage the United Nations system, particulary the Trust Fund for
Eliminating Violence Against Women and UNIFEM to strengthen knowledge
base oneffective stratefies to eliminate violence against women for
countries to draw on."

Secondly in paragraph 96, although there is paragraph 96 in this text,
this text was actually deleted and replaced by sentence included in
paragraph 97. Second sentence of paragraph 97 is the agreed version of
this issue. In fact this was the first sentence of papragraph 97.
Therefore paragraph 96 should be deleted and in the paragraph 97, the
second sentence and first sentence revers in order so the second
sentence "Efforts, including..." become the first sentence.

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Rappoteur: 

Your intervention on para 96 and 97 is duly noted by the secretariat.
Paragraph 94 may I request that the correction be submitted to the
secretariat.

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Malaysia: 

My delegation would like to seek just a little bit of clarification on
agenda item 5 [page 21] and I would apologize to my colleagues if I am
wrong and please correct me if I am wrong.  The first paragraph of the
agenda item 5, is that the paragraph we have adopted this morning?
because when we left last night, we started the sentence with perhaps
the Beijing Platform for Action which was adopted at the Fourth World
Conference. After the period of the first sentence the we use the word
"It espoouses a human rights-based ... equality." Then we have agin the
word "The platform.."  The whole paragraph doesn't seem to be clear to
me. The first "it" referes to the Forth World Conference and then we
jump to the Platform as an agenda. I just would like to seek
clarification whether this is the paragraph that we have adopted this
morning as I was late. I'm sorry Madame Rappoteur.

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Rappoteur: 

As has been pointed out ealier, there are number of inaccuarcies and
changes that need to be made to this text due to time pressure. So again
we respectfully request that this issue you had raised be submitted to
the secretariat.

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Tonga: 

I refer to comments made in relation to paragraph 99. I'm glad to inform
you that inspite of the time constraints that secretariat had to work on,
this paragraph reflects the accuracy of the decisions made in the
drafting committee. So the paragraph 99 as it is, is the exact paragraph
approved. So the earlier questions into correctness or the clumsiness of
this paragraph, i'm trying to clarify it that in all in its perfection
it was adopted this morning exactly as it is reflected here. 

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Rappoteur: 

Thank you for your clarification on that paragraph.

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Azerbaijan

Russian is the language of communicaiton for the people in Central Asia.
We are limited with the knowledge of english, we wer not actively
involved in the discussion of the draft report. Is it possible to ammend
the report on behalf of the delegation from Azerbaijan in my
presentation regarding the item of the agenda rights of refugee women
and voluntary displaced persons.  At this point I would like to add
violation of the rights of women refugees as a violation not only from
the aggressing countries but also violation of women's rights at the
international level.

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Rappoteur: 

May I request what paragraph you are referring to in the preamble?

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Azerbaijan: 

I am not able to translate the paragraph. I'm referring to the rights of
refugee women and displaced persons. 

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Rappoteur: 

It is addressed in the text but perhaps you could submit your
intervention to the secretariat.

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United States of America: 

We would like to refer to paragraph number 56 in Preamble. United States
has continued to consult with our Capital and we would like to remove
our reservation on the sentences noted.

(applauds)

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India:

I come back to paragraph 87bis at page 32. As you clarified earlier,
this was an item included by the Indonsian delegation but we still have
reservation on the formulation and would urge that the formulation
suggested by me ealier, may be substituted for this. Because these are
issues which were not discussed earlier yesterday. And if it were
discussed only at that drafting stage, I think we are in a position to
discuss and debate this issue today before finallly accepting the
recommendations. So I would like to repeat the formulation which I
suggested earlier -- "Gender concerns and women in particular should be
mainstreamed into reproductive health policies, programmes and projects
which must be made available, accessible and affordable to women of all
ages including marginalized groups." I would urge that this formulation
be accepted by all present.

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Rappoteur: 

May we respectfully request that reformulation be submitted in writing
to the secretariat. However, I would like to report that this
formulation as recorded in the draft report has been agreed to in the
drafting committee.

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Tonga: 

I just have small correction to paragraph 120 and 120ter. It's really
procedual. In paragraph 120 last line. "Wider participation by NGOs in
the 2000 Beijing+5 process in accordance with the UN regulations and
practices, should be encouraged." The same sentence is repeated in
120ter but enlarged with the addition "in accordance with the UN
regulations and practices such as the accreditation process of NGOs for
the Social Summit+5." I believe this is one of inaccuracies of the
recording or typing. 120 as it is was at the time we were trying to
combine the issues in these paragraphs and we ended up splitting them.
So my proposal is to delete the last sentence of 120 because it is taken
care of in 120ter with the additional ammendments that was proposed by
the USA.

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Rappoteur: 

The corrections are duly noted by the secretariat.

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China: 

Having made enough trouble to Madame Ruth Limjuco, Chairperson of the
Drafting Committee, it's really not my intention to draw in the debating
for sakes once again. However, having heard the interventions of the
distinguished delegate of Tonga, I think there is a need for me to
clarify the situation. I think what she has suggested is not the case we
have discussed in the Drafting Committee. She might recommendation and
ammendments to 120ter. Nonetheless 120 should remain unchanged. That is
the conclusion we reached in the Drafting Committee.

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Tonga: 

The distingished delegate from China is so persuasive, I have no
recourse but withdraw my proposal.

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India:

Sorry to come back to para 99 at page 35. I thought this was an issue
which could be taken up in a plenary because our understanding was this
was not put down in the Drafting Committee the way it has been
formulated here. And I would once again urge that the formulation might
be changed to stop at "considered" and deleting the remaining three
words because at the preliminary stage I think we can take up issue
wherever we feel we do not agree with the Drafting Committee, we can
take up these issues. If you could consider our reformulation on this,
and with the sentence such considered, we'll be happy.

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Tonga: 

The proposal that just has been made by India in relation to paragraph
99 was the last of the milestones for us to climb at the Drafting
Committe of which India had agreed to consensus of the Drafting
Committee. At this 11th hour I certainly would appeal to the delegation
>from India to reconsider thier objection to the wording as it is. As was
explained at the Drafting Committee, these words were lifted from
Beijing Platform for Action and the last three words added, clarified
nevertheless, as appropriate. Because this is a review process to look
at the gains and the gaps since Beijing and paragraph 99 is one of those
gaps. So I would like to appeal to the delegation from India to allow
the consensus reached at the Drafting Committee to get senior.

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India: 

I think we had agreed to at the Drafting Committee on another issue, not
on this one. But, however, if the distinguised delegate from Tonga
insists, we could compromise by removing the last word and keeping it at
"appropriate" ending the sentence at "appropriate."

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Tonga:

I seek the indulgence of this august body. I know everyone is tired and
needs to take some rest. But I would like to again appeal to India to
remove the last word and leave as "appropriate" would certainly be as
dressing a child without the giving the child without the full clothing
that it needs in a time of winter when it it cold. I appeal to India to
allow this, again, negotiated and agreed upon text to which some members
of distinguished delegation from India was participating to the group.
Because the removal of proposed compromise is a situation that is not
attractive at this late hour of the night.

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Rappoteur: 

As said, this is the 11th hour and people are very tired. However it is
also understandable that as tired as we may be, we may not be
compromising as we should be. So we would like to request, based on the
fact that this is agreed upon text in the Drafting Committee, may we
respectfully request Tonga and India to get together and agree on a
reformulation of the last three words.

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Indonesia: 

It is my understanding that paragraph 87bis was accepted in the Drafting
Committee, so I do not understand when you request India to submit the
reformulation, unless other members of the Drafting Committee thinks
that this is not correctly reflected. I have checked again on my notes
and this was exactly what was agreed in the Drafting Committee.

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Rappoteur: 

May I beg the indulgence of distinguished delegates of this forum. As is
well known throughout this forum, this is agreed on text from which
delegates from all delegation attended and negotiated. So if areed on,
it should not be reopened and renegotiated in this Plenary. 

(applauds)

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Japan: 

I fully support your suggestion that this is not a drafting group that
this is a place merely to adopt the text. It would be easier for our
work if the secretariat could clarify what exactly was the agreement
made at the drafting group. Not clarification by each and every
delegation's concerns. 

Secondly, we actually noted that paragraph 86 and paragraph 88 seems to
be overlapping paragraph which require some kind of adjustment.

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Rappoteur: 

I would like to reiterate again for this distinguished forum that what
is before you is agreed on text. If there are corrections that need to
be made on that, please submit them to the secretariat.

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India: 

I would request the clarification of rules of procedure of this meeting.
I think the distinguished colleague from Japan has already asked as to
what was the understanding. It was our understanding that the Drafting
Committee would put forward a set of recommendations to the Plenary for
its consideration. It is certainly not our understanding that we are not
allowed to discuss the recommendations. It is our understanding that
this Plenary has been convened at this late hour to consider those
recommendations before adopting them. And in case some delegations want
a discussion on some of the recommendations, I think we are entitled of
it, so may I request clarification on the rules of procedure from the
Secretariat.

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Rappoteur: 

Secreatriat will respond after we hear from the distinguished delegate
>from France.

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France: 

I would like to clarify that I don't have any objections as far as the
Draft Report is concerned. I would like just to remind you the procedual
rules and  would like to join my voice to the statement that has been
made by representative of India. I think that the drafting committee is
a committee that has to prepare as good as possible, a draft report to
be discussed at the Plenary assembly. But this is the plenary assembly
session that has to adopt the draft report with all the ammendments that
has been proposed by various delegations. As the representative of
Azerbaijan pointed out, the Drafting Committee works in english
exclusively which is one of the languages of the meeting. This is quite
normal that all delegations have to have the time to think over the
draft which is submitted to the delegations. I remind that the Drafting
Committee is not a decision making committee. Decision lies with the
Plenary session.

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Tonga:

I would like to agree with what is being raised by india and france in
terms of procedures. However I would like to make an addition to what is
being proposed or pointed out by India and France. That is, one of the
rules of the procedures is that, from the drafting committee, if the
text comes bracketed, it is normally those brackets that we discuss here
in plenary. For the text that are not bracketed it is usually the
procedure that they are not discussed in Plenary. So whilst I agree with
the distinguished delegates from India and France, I would like to
suggest that the text from the drafting committee arrived here in
Plenary without brackets with one reservation of which it was discussed
at this Plenary and removed. So I'm adding on to what is being proposed
because that is also normal procedure that if a bracketed text arrive
here, we as the plenary discuss the bracket. So i'm just adding that
information for the consideration of the Bureau.

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Iran: 

I think it's technically correct because the Plenary has the right and
decision making power. But I think at the same time I think we have to
agree that we set up the Drafting Committee for cirtain purpose, that is
to facilitate the discussion here at the Plneary. Now I think the
distinguished delegate of Tonga rightly said that if you had square
bracketed phrases and sentences, natuarlly that have to be taken up at
the plenary. Now as for the others, especially if the delegate, although
I understand it was an open ended drafting committee, for some reason
the delegate from particular country was not there, they still have the
right to raise the issue again. But especially if a representative from
that country had already agreed to it, then I beg your deligence in not
to reopen the discussions again because otherwise the drafting committee
serve no purpose. That means that anybody can reopen everything. That
means we should have done everythihng at the plenary. So I think
certainly we respect the rights of the delegates to raise but if we
would like to give justice to the work of the drafting committee, I
think all the things that have been agreed particulary by the respective
delegates of the drafting committee, I would appeal to you not to reopen
the discussions.

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India:

Much as my delegation hates to prolong the proceedings, we are
constrained to point out that in the drafting committee, there were
groups formed of two to three countries that went to the side, and went
into formulations that were quite completely different from what was
circulated initially. And the reformulated drafts were niether
circulated nor discussed in the drafting committee. So, para 87bis, I'm
informed by my colleage who were there in the drafting committee that it
is an entirely new paragraph which was discussed on the side. And
similary, with para 99 we don't recall it was actually discussed with
everybody present. We can square bracket it if we have a chance to know
what was put into the draft but if it has been discussed by a group of
countries and then it has been put into the draft that has been given to
the plenary, we haven't had a chance to see it before, it was given to
us at the plenary. This is a point that I would request you to bear in
mind. We don't wish to reopen the issue ourselves but this is the time
that we have had to react to it.

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Chairperson, Drafting Committee: 

Yes we did have literal drafting group and items that are very
contentious, and it is a usual experience in United Nations that during
negotiations when two or three parties do not agree on cirtain points,
then they are requested to negotiate among themselves after which the
compromise solution is presented to the general body. I myself made it a
point that every time a little group came up with the reformulation of
the contentious item, I myself read it out to the general group and
after reading it, then asked for adoption of that particular item. Never
did it occur that a little group discuss something and was immediately
adopted without general group have hearing of it and being asked whether
or not there were any objections. Only when there were no objections,
where those reformulated items adopted.

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Chair

Thank you Chairperson for clarification.

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USA

I would like to support the memory of the Chairperson of the Drafting
Committee specifically with regard to item 99 because the United States
gave the verbal report of that working group. It was read exactly as it
is here and the Chair repeated it to herself and then asked if there
were any objections. I can not speak to the other paragraphs but I can
cirtainly speak of 99.

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Rappoteur: 

I would like to thank all the distinguished delegates for your
cooperation and active debate this evening. And I have great pleasure
and declare it that Draft Report of the High Level Inter-Govenmental
Meeting to Review the Regional Implementation of the Beijing Platform
for Action adopted. 

(applauds)

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closing statement by ESCAP Execitive Director followed.

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